Thursday, April 26, 2012

Why is Vegas catering only to the wealthy?

I dont know about others..I am a middle class person and I find Vegas prices crazy....every thing costs a arm and leg.

Why is Vegas catering only to the wealthy?

Sorry to disagree with you but Vegas is a middle class playground. It just depends what you are looking for to do when you are there. There are multiple fine medium priced hotels on the strip such as the Harrah%26#39;s locations along with some of the MGM properties. For food there are good valued buffets and places like Ellis Island just off the strip. $5.00 tables can be had on the strip at places like O%26#39;Sheas and Casino Royale. Even some shows can be had for 1/2 price if you look hard.

The only overpriced things are rooms at the Bellagio and such, but there are people that consider them worth the money if they are not going to Vegas for the gambling. They like eating in fancy restaurants and are not rich.

Overall I think Vegas can be had for the same price as Disney or less than a trip to the Islands as long as your gambling has its limits.

Why is Vegas catering only to the wealthy?

Yes, Vegas can be pricey, alright!

So is Hawaii, and Disneyworld, and all the other touristy places on the planet! Why, even here in Canada... Have you ever been to Banff? Lake Louise? Jasper?

If you want to travel, you must pay the price. It%26#39;s all about making money! I, too, am middle class, and I know when I get to Vegas for my 2 week stint this July, I better be prepared to ante up! Save your $$, go, and have a great time!

Also, check out cheapovegas.com you might find some useful information for cutting corners!

Dee


The pricing of any holiday destination is all about supply and demand. Vegas hotels are a real bargain when you compare like for like in various large cities in the US. Bellagio or Wynn are often under $200 a night, can%26#39;t find a hotel that nice for the price in Boston, NY, LA, Chicago or Philly etc etc.


I disagree. I can go to LV for 5 days for less than half of what I would pay to go to Disney, Los Angeles, on a cruise, to Florida, any place.

Most vacation destinations don%26#39;t have the wide range of hotels, food, shows, etc for every price range.


Because the wealthy have more money to spend.


Vegas can be expensive unless you check things out in advance.

Plan ahead. Know where to go and how much it will cost.

Vegas is a place for DREAMERS and those in touch with reality.


The short answer to your question is... they figured out they could! When the Bellagio became a success, it became evident that people are willing to spend more on accommodations, dining and shows. Add to that the poker craze, which made gambling acceptable to many people who didn%26#39;t even think about going to Vegas before, and you have increased demand. They%26#39;re not catering exclusively to the wealthy - they%26#39;ve just perfected the art of squeezing every last buck out of patrons.


If you avoid weekends, holidays and major conventions, maybe stay at one of the better off-Strip hotels, it can be quite affordable. I once managed to go 5 times in one year on a salary in the mid-20s (air was free, though.) Do some research, there are bargains out there to be found!


Manny, Vegas is all things to all people. One can stay DT, play penny slots, eat buffets and use coupons and have a total Vegas fix. Or you can pony up big bucks at Wynn. It, like life, is what you make of it. Or are you a Chateau Lafitte guy with a Pepsi budget???


underpar LOL funny u say that cause i have a friend that is just like that... but his budget is more around a sams club soda:)

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  • left jewllery in mirage hotel

    since coming home some of my jewllery is missing, hoping it has not been stolen in transit, so would like to check that i have not left it in the hotel. can anyone give me an email adress for mirage hotel so that i can ask if this has been left by mistake





    thanks



    left jewllery in mirage hotel


    Try guestservices@mirage.com.





    I hope you%26#39;re reunited with your jewelry and that your trip was otherwise wonderful!



    left jewllery in mirage hotel


    702-791-7111





    Call them.






    I have just emailed them at guest service if this does not work i shall try calling them other than that we had a great time for 7 days and night in vegas only draw back was the long flight





    thanks for email and phone number and such a quick reply




    i would call them asap




    Hope your reunited with your jewelry. I quess this is just a reminder to all of us to leave anything of value at home when we travel.




    I certainly wouldn%26#39;t wait to get an email response - I%26#39;d be on the phone!




    We had that happen in NYC with nice clothes. We left them hanging in the closet. That evening, after we got home, we called guest services. We knew exactly where the clothes were.





    Guest Services transferred us to housekeeping. Every person we spoke to said that we left nothing in the room. We know for a fact the clothes were left there. Two of the items were beautiful Ralph Lauren dress shirts and they were new!! That hurt. On top of that, we tipped housekeeping.





    Let us know what happens. I wish you alot of luck.




    just had an email back from the mirage, but they have not been able to find it in the room. i guess house keeping thought it was part of the tip. very dissapointed but did not spoil my holiday but a sad memory of one peice that had sentimental value rather than money value!




    I am sorry you lost your jewelry and hope it is returned to you. I had some of mine come up missing in Reno NV. I foolishly left it in a little bag in the bathroom. My husband was asleep and I had gone down to gamble a little. Well, one thing led to another......my husband found me and we didn%26#39;t return to the room till noon or so. The room had been cleaned and the jewelry was gone. I reported it to hotel security. They acutally had me tell them where and what time I had last worn it in the hotel (which I knew because of a dinner reservation). Did no good, it was never recovered. Live and learn! I have also had prescriptions stolen from hotel rooms before. Not safe to leave anything of value or that is difficult to replace out in the open.

    Birthday freebies?

    Hi,





    Next month is hubby%26#39;s 33 b-day and we are going to LV to celebrate.





    Are there any special freebies for birthday-ers? I have heard about the japanese restaurant at the Aladdin (PHollywood?) Passage, but no more.





    I know there is lots of stuff for people turning 21 but... if you are older? :%26#39;(





    greets and thanks in advance!!!



    nek0



    Birthday freebies?


    It never hurts to mention that it%26#39;s his birthday and see what happens. Most restaurants I would think would at least throw in a little dessert with a candle. Sometimes hotels will upgrade your room. A lounge might even waive the cover charge. Nothing is guaranteed, but there%26#39;s only one way to find out...



    Birthday freebies?


    The Nevada Palace you get a coffee mug, tee shirt and $5 blackjacks pays double.



    Santa Fe Station You get a free $25 bet. Not a mtch play just a free bet.




    If you sign up on Magianno%26#39;s website they send you a coupon for your birthday, but I can%26#39;t remember if it%26#39;s 2 for 1 entree or just 10% off the bill.




    Mcmullans Irish Pub on W. Tropicana across from Orleans. Free Birthday meal. Look up their web site and sign up.




    last year ceasars mailed me a card,I think it was for dining credits? ,try their promotions desk




    google ';vegas values report';. If restaurant/casino, has a birthday special, it should be there.

    March Madness

    What a fun weekend, best of the year. All the hotels had special places set up for the game, places like the Joint at the Hardrock or they used their ballrooms. Only problem is that if I was single I would be a little upset because there are never enough girls in town.



    March Madness


    LOL. your post gave me a chuckle.





    As BubbaQ pointed out to me there are only two types of women that sit n watch MM. The first is there to watch the games so you best not bother her. The second is there to keep an eye on her man.



    March Madness


    Good to hear! I%26#39;m headed there for the Sweet 16 round on Wednesday. Do you remember which sportsbooks may have been offering free drinks? :)




    Who in their right mind would bring their girlfriend/wife to Vegas to watch March Madness????




    Every year I head out for the Sweet 16 round. And like a good husband, I invite my wife. I explain that the point is to watch college basketball all day, every day of the trip. In a way-over-crowded room full of drunk guys. And we don%26#39;t even care that much who wins, just who covers. She hasn%26#39;t joined me yet.




    Can u tell me when March Madness ends? being from England im not sure what its all about. Six of us will be in Vegas between 22-29th March. Is there anywhere we should really make an effort to go to or, anywhere we should really avoid?





    Thanks in advance




    waterhouse, the March Madness regionals take place over four days of your stay, March 22-25. Just where you go and where you avoid depends on how much of a fan of college basketball you are. The sports books and just about all other good sports viewing locations will be absolutely crazy but nowhere else should be affected.




    OK Guys - I%26#39;m the girl at the bar with her husband and his 4 guy friends and I wouldn%26#39;t miss it for the world. First I am a huge basketball fan I%26#39;ll take watching the games over shopping ANY DAY! Second my husband and the guys usually go out when I turn in early-I can only drink for 10 hours then I shut down. How you guys do it is beyond me!



    So don%26#39;t mess with us basketball ladies-there is nothing wrong with those of us who enjoy watching/cheering/betting on the games.



    And don%26#39;t forget: winners don%26#39;t just win THEY COVER!



    Had a blast can%26#39;t wait to do it again next year!




    Thanks blagger much appreciated

    Which hotels don't let get kids in?

    I just saw the Bellagio ';no under 18s'; policy. Which other hotels won%26#39;t be able to go inside with kids?





    Thanks!



    Which hotels don't let get kids in?


    they cannot go into any casinos at all. no strollers in lots of places.



    How old are the kids?



    Which hotels don't let get kids in?


    The Bellagio doesn%26#39;t enforce the policy.




    I know that they cannot go into the casinos, but I am talking about the actual hotels themself - such as the lobby, shops etc...





    They are 9 and 16.




    Open_Wide - I appreciate your reply. Do you think it would be okay to visit the shops in the Bellagio with our children?




    Just got back and there weren%26#39;t any places the kids weren%26#39;t allowed. (ages 12,16) We took them to bellagio conservatory and didn%26#39;t have any problems. i just wrote a trip report on this. How old are your kids?




    If the kids are well behaved you shouldn%26#39;t have a problem in the shops. Its really no different than shopping in any high-end store.




    I don%26#39;t think you can take strollers into the Wynn unless you are a guest. I have seen children in the conservatory and shop areas of the Bellagio so I don%26#39;t know how strict their policy is enforced.




    Kids can go into ANY of the hotels. They just can%26#39;t go into the casino area. Also, as stated, kids can go into the Wynn, but you just can%26#39;t take strollers in there.




    They can go in the high end shops, but be prepared for people to look at you and them. People who shop in those type stores do not want to see kids and most kids don%26#39;t want to be there either.





    Think about when you were a kid, did you want to be shopping with your parents?





    The Kids in Vegas debate goes back and forth, but in the end there are very few people who actually would admit if they were 100% truthful that they got to do everything they wanted to in Vegas with their kids.




    If you stay at Wynn can you bring a stroller in? I ask because my cousin is getting married late next year in Vegas and my son and I will both be in the wedding. I might have a little one by then that would need to be in a stroller. Just an FYI, I wouldn%26#39;t be bringing my son with me if it wasn%26#39;t a family wedding. We are going to Vegas in May and he will be staying home.

    Ski Resort Recommendations

    Coming to South Tahoe on wed and staying through friday. I have 2 days worth of lift tickets purchased that are good for Heavenly, Squaw Valley, Kirkwood, Sierra or Northstar. I%26#39;m a capable intermediate to expert skier and was hoping someone could make recommendations for which 2 to chose based on current conditions and overall terrain?

    Ski Resort Recommendations

    Both Heavenly and Squaw have all slopes open except for one at each resort. Heavenly is expecting snow showers today. You cannot go wrong at either place.

    But since you are going to SLT, Heavenly is absolutely the better choice.

    Ski Resort Recommendations

    I was thinking Heavenly and Squaw also, but got a bit nervous reading some posts about the lack of snow. Thanks for the feedback, a 2nd opion is always appreciated.

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  • Elvis show?

    Is it true they are planning a ';Love'; style Cirque show on Elvis? I hope the rumour%26#39;s true!



    Elvis show?


    Yes, but its in the early stages of planning. Other Elvis in Vegas projects have also been hinted at by the new owners of the Elvis brand, who recently bought out the Elvis-A-Rama ( which is moving to Hawaii).


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  • Car rental or not?

    3 of us going 5/27 to 5/30. Have been reading on here and elsewhere that car rental is better and cheaper than public transportation. Can get a 4 day rental for $85.00 complete.



    This amount has to be just as much as airport shuttle or taxi (round trip) and 4 days of public transportation in LV. I have read that parking is free everywhere (is this true?), but was wondering if driving on the Strip is worth the convenience of the car. We would probably only use it to go downtown, possibly to the casinos on Boulder Blvd., and to off-Strip restaurants and hotels. We will be staying mid-Strip. Any suggestions?



    Car rental or not?


    There is free parking but you will find that valet parking is more convenient. Free lots are usually at the rear of the property and can be a lengthy walk to the casino. Valet is usually located at the front of the hotel with easy casino access.





    If you are staying mid-strip, then you are probably a $10 cab ride from each end of the strip, except for Fremont or the Strat. Split that between everyone and it is a pretty cheap ride.





    I drink and usually the people in my party do as well. So taking cabs make more since for us. Will everyone in your party be drinking? If so, then I recommend using the public transportation. No need to ruin a perfectly good trip with either an accident or a DWI.





    J



    Car rental or not?


    Not sure what the question is here. You couldn%26#39;t accomplish all that using the bus and doing it using cabs would break anyone%26#39;s wallet. Parking and valet are free and if you map your routes out well you shouldn%26#39;t have to actually drive much on the strip.




    3 people to and from airport by shuttle: $36. By cab, maybe same.



    3 2-way tix on LV Tram: $27. That%26#39;s just 2 rides per person.



    Cab to Downtown and back: $40.





    Keep the car!




    Rent the car for mobility.




    Joe:



    We are coming to LV in May and am trying to find rates for car rental. Could you tell me where you found the rates/what company? I have been trying to shop around but am a novice at this and any help would be appreciated. Enjoy your LV trip. Thanks




    Thanks to all for the suggestions.



    I found that Enterprise had the best rates. Then, since I%26#39;m a member of AAA and AARP, i went to their sites and looked under car rentals. The AARP site had enterprise on there at a 5% discount, which is only about $4.00. But even without the discount, a 4-day rental from Enterprise was only about $88.00, including all taxes and fees. They say they are at the airport, but also mention that they will shuttle you to your car. Not sure what that means, but it sounds OK to me.




    It means they have a desk at the airport to complete all your paperwork and then shuttle you to the parking lot to pick-up your car = fyi you will need to return the car to the orignial pick-up place and then they will shuttle you back to the airport




    Thanks. But I%26#39;m just not sure if the lot is on or off the airport property.




    All the car rental lots are located elsewhere. At the end of the month, they all be a one giant facility about a mile away from the airport.




    Just another question about parking. I know our hotel has free parking, but if we drove to another hotel to see a show, would we be able to take the car there and park for free?

    How early should I book?

    How soon do I need to make restaurant reservations, buy tickets to shows etc? I am not going until July 23rd, but want to be sure I get to do what I want to experience in Vegas! These boards have been immensely helpful thus far, so thanks in advance for assistance!



    How early should I book?


    Most shows allow you to book 6 weeks in advance. So for the best seats to popular shows, I would book then. Restaurants usually only allow you to book 4 weeks in advance.



    How early should I book?


    start deciding soon as you can for the bigger shows. book once you know,for the best seats. dining is diff,someone else can answer that better than i can




    I always figure out where I%26#39;m wanting to go and then use the websites or even call the hotels to figure out the first day I can buy tickets, make reservations. I write it on my calender and do it as soon as I can.




    ASAP is the key to good seats and reservations




    I you definitely know you want to see a certain show- buy the ticket as soon as possible so you can have a wider choice of seats.This is assuming you are looking at one of the biggies-Dion, Cirque shows, etc. If you want to go to a non-A list show and are flexible about what show to see- you can wait until you get there and buy the tickets at the 1/2 price kiosks. I would do the same with restaurant reservation-make the reservation as soon as possible.. If you change your mind you can always cancel the reserattion (know their cancellation policy). You really gain nothing by waiting.

    Summer Deals

    I know we%26#39;re still a little bit early, but has anyone found any great summer prices or deals at any of the hotels?



    Summer Deals


    Hi Cornwall!





    Toronto here. I booked a July 1 week trip through Expedia, from Buffalo. We saved $1200 for the 5 of us...$4000 trip, hotel, flights and all taxes included, Canadian funds. This deal was great. Room for 2 at Treasure Island, petite suite, and 3 of us in a second room, Deluxe. Let me know what you find out. We%26#39;re leaving July 21st...good luck!





    Arlene.



    Summer Deals


    Well, I%26#39;m finding cheap flights out of Syracuse.





    As for hotels, the luxor seems to have rooms at about $80/night during the weekday. Monte Carlo always has reasonable rates too.





    I received a flyer in the mail the other day for Spring promotions, and I was wondering when the summer deals would start up?

    Trip Report: Wendover/Reno, NV - 3/14-3/18

    Preface: I drove round trip from eastern Wyoming to Reno, NV via I-80 for a part pleasure, part business trip, a total of about 1800 miles.

    Wendover:

    First off, Wendover is often labeled as a typical truck-stop gambling town. That’s a little misleading, although not that far off. That’s not to be taken as a negative comment. It is what it is and I generally enjoyed myself while there.

    Property:

    I stayed at the Rainbow, one of three properties owned by the same firm, also including the Peppermill and Montego Bay. There was no check-in line, it went very smooth. I was surprised to find out that you’re on your own as far as parking, competing with the day time visitors of the casino for an outside parking spot, similar to a motel.

    The room was small, with one wall completely covered from ceiling to floor with a huge mirror. There was no escaping myself!! The room and the entire property are encompassed with loud colors, neon and faux flora. The bathroom was very, very small, with the sink outside the bathroom. The room seemed clean, the décor is outdated, but very old-school “Vegasy,” which is something I like, and is to be expected in a place like this.

    Casino:

    Small, but not as small as I expected. There was band both nights I was there, playing Motown cover tunes. They were fairly good, although the guitar player couldn’t pick a lick of blues if his life depended on it.

    I strictly bet on sports and play craps (oh, and video poker when I’m bored). Therefore, these are the only things I can comment on. I was thoroughly impressed with the Race and Sports book at the Rainbow. It was larger than I expected, it was very adequate, the lines were good, the staff friendly and helpful. Although they don’t have the Daily Race Form for the horses. Betting on a horse race without looking at a Form is just like lighting your money on fire.

    The craps tables were a bit of another story in Wendover (and in Reno for that matter). The first night, there was only one table open with a $3 minimum, also the tables in Wendover and in Reno both had 10x odds, which is good. These are my favorite types of tables because you can still put down $25 on the pass line if you want and back it with $250, but the table maximum is still $5000 so you can pretty much bet what you want, unless you are truly a whale. In addition, if the table gets cold, you have the option to don’t put anything down or put $3 or $5 down or play the don’t pass line. I firmly believe that the $25 dollar tables in Vegas are for suckers only because of this. You can go ahead and play the $25 table and look important to total strangers (which has never made any sense to me anyhow) or play the lower limit table and bet your $25 when you want to anyway!!

    Back to the craps tables in Wendover (and in Reno). Generally, the tables were surrounded with amateurs, which is fine and can be expected, but it really takes away from the continuity and flow of the game. Any one that plays a lot of craps surely knows what I mean. Hey, not to be critical, but I took the time to learn to play, learned the odds, the table layout and the lingo before I stepped up to a live table, and I’m sure glad I did. Besides affecting continuity, I also believe that it directly affects the “mojo” of the table. I also believe that the dealers can affect the “mojo” as well.

    Which leads to my biggest complaint – the dealers. I felt like telling a couple of these guys, “Hey, if you hate your job that bad then QUIT!” Don’t take your frustrations out on the customers. This happens everywhere, but in Wendover and Reno, it seemed worse. There is a lot going on at a craps table. There are a lot of side conversations with dealers and other players. During this time, dealers often like to tell you how to play, what to put down, etc. Which is fine for the most part, because if you know it’s a bad bet, then just tell him “no thanks.” But some of these guys where lying to customers, telling them they needed more money for an odds bet, when in reality, they didn%26#39;t at all, the more money the dealers where requesting was doubling the bet. One tried this on me, which was bad, because I know craps odds. I just told him no thanks.

    In addition to this, the dealers general disposition was just unpleasant, making it a bad experience all around, in both Wendover and Reno. I wasn’t doing that bad either, it just wasn’t a good vibe. So, I’d eventually end up at a bar, playing video poker, with a resounding feeling to just get drunk.

    On to Reno…..

    I got up fairly early Thursday morning and drove the 400 plus miles across the northern Nevada desert to Reno. I actually like that drive. There is little to no traffic, lots of cool, weird desert stuff to look at, and even weirder people to stop and talk to, which I did often, but that’s another story.

    Ah, Reno. I hadn’t been to Reno in over ten years. To talk or write about Reno, its gaming industry, hotels and downtown could be a novel in itself. If you’ve been there recently, you know what I’m talking about. Basically, if you don’t like downtown Las Vegas, you would definitely hate Reno. That fact, on its own lends to a certain appeal, but that could be just me.

    Property:

    I stayed at the Sands Regency in downtown Reno. This hotel and casino has gotten plenty of bad reviews, and I can see why some would not like it. It’s old and run down, but my room was clean and the price was right. (Actually, everything else was booked solid because I had to make last minute travel arrangements due to the business portion of my trip.)

    Check-in was a short wait, about 10 minutes, and the desk manager happened to be back there with the clerks, his presence made the experience much better because he was seemed very customer oriented…..and the other employees, well, not so much.

    My room was very large, including a large bathroom. As someone stated before, I also believe that the rooms are larger because it’s an old hotel, before they figured out they could make more money by cramming people into smaller spaces. My assumption is that the true reason the rooms are larger is because the Sands, back in the day, was a nice hotel and the place to be.

    Casino:

    The casino floor is set up kind of strange, with corridors going this way and that, I found the layout very confusing, even after two days there, I found myself doing circles at times looking for the sports book, restrooms or elevators.

    The sports book at the Sands totally stinks. The lines are crappy, and the ticket writers are jerks. I spent little time there, although I found myself stopping by from time to time because I was staying at the hotel, trying to give a chance. Every time it was the same, so, never again for me. I did my wagering at Fitzgerald’s two blocks away. The sports book there is one tiny little window, stuck back in the corner of the second floor of the casino, with only two small TV’s with bad reception, and it was still better than the sports book at the Sands.

    The experience at the craps tables was the same. See comments above.

    Other Properties:

    I quickly walked the two blocks over to Virginia St, where most other hotels and casinos are located. The El Dorado and Harrah’s are clearly the two nicest properties downtown. The El Dorado seemed the best, with some higher end restaurants, décor and amenities. I ate lunch at the Brew Brothers Pub and Brewery; the food, atmosphere and beer where all very good.

    I eventually stumbled into the Cal-Neva casino. Whoa, what a blast from the past. I’m too young to know what the old Reno was like, but this place, I think, is still a good indication. I loved it. The casino was kind of dark, but full of life and people, the cocktails where strong and delivered by fast, by friendly attractive waitresses. The pit bosses were guys named Sal and Vito, the place was just fantastic!

    One major complaint about all the casinos I visited in Reno - the layout. They all seemed to be full of smoke and mirrors (literally). To me anyway, they seem very hard to navigate and to have any sense of direction as to where you are at. I had some very frustrating times figuring out where I was when it was time to leave or use the restroom or to find a cashier’s cage. And, speaking of restrooms, there are very few on the casino floors at the four main casinos I visited. It seemed I could never find a restroom, and when I would finally ask someone, I’d be sent on a journey upstairs, downstairs, then to the right, to the left and through this corridor and that. Not very conducive to keeping someone on the casino floor gambling.

    Back to Wendover…..

    Saturday, I drove back to Wendover. This time, I spent most of my time at the Wendover Nugget Hotel and Casino. By far, I liked this one the best in Wendover. The casino layout is open and navigatable. The general atmosphere is just nicer than the overly crowded (with machines, not necessarily people) other properties. That doesn’t mean the casino is any smaller, because it is not. The space is just utilized much better. The dealers were slightly friendlier, and they had a great band that night. Next visit to Wendover, I’ll be staying at the Nugget.

    Hope this trip report will be helpful to any of you brave enough to check out northern Nevada. Post any comments or questions, I’ll be happy to answer, if I can.

    Trip Report: Wendover/Reno, NV - 3/14-3/18

    Sorry, a few grammatical errors in my TR, I noticed a couple of ';where%26#39;s'; that should be ';were%26#39;s'; and probably a spelling error or two. Please don%26#39;t be terribly offended or annoyed, thanks!! :)

    Trip Report: Wendover/Reno, NV - 3/14-3/18

    Acey-Deucey, Good through TR, know what you mean about smokey casinos. Don%26#39;t know why one of the LV casinos doesn%26#39;t go smoke free, I bet (lol) they would be full. Interesting to hear about the 10x odds, from your TR I got the impression those odds are generally available where you were in Reno. I used to play at Silver Legacy, generally a nice workable layout. I do remember the Cal-Neva good to hear it%26#39;s still going, definately had the old time Reno feel, lots of fun.


    My comment about the smoke was just a matter of fact. I wasn%26#39;t complaining. I don%26#39;t smoke, but it doesn%26#39;t bother me either.


    Really nice report! Thanks a million....

    I am heading with a group to Reno this Sunday. We always, always, and always end up at the Cal-Neva at some point. The drinks are stiff, the service fast and the $0.25 roulette speaks to the Cheap-O members of the group, such as myself. You%26#39;ll likely find us there on Sunday night after midnight.

    Oh, and do they still have the $1.50 Heiniken %26amp; Hot Dog?

    Finally, one of my favorite seats in Reno? Cafe Anderotti%26#39;s at Harrah%26#39;s overlooking the lights of the Cal-Neva.

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  • VEGAS..mother and daughter alone, any safety tips??

    Me and my mum are going to vegas on our own for a week in April has anyone got any tips to watch out for???? thank you in advance.



    VEGAS..mother and daughter alone, any safety tips??


    As long as you are just hanging around the strip and those hotels, vegas is really a pretty safe place. Just like any city, stay out of the rough parts of town, yada yada. Keep a watchful eye on your purse when gambling, shopping, etc.





    Each strip hotel has some of the best security in the world so you should be quite safe.



    VEGAS..mother and daughter alone, any safety tips??


    leave the jewelry at home, don%26#39;t be drunk around strangers, and use your brains. keep an eye on your purse and don%26#39;t let any strangers in your room. if somebody comes to your door and you didn%26#39;t call for room service, call the operator and verify that they are legitimate. stick to the populated areas of the strip and under the canopy downtown. take cabs at night rather than walk through less populated areas.




    Where are you staying?




    I%26#39;ve conventioned in LV annually. Staying around the major Mega-Casinos you will see ample security. On a few long walks to see other attractions you will occasionally walk by some undeveloped lots. This would be a place to avoid unless walking in a large group. There are barkers and flyer jockeys trying to hustle people who walk by. You don%26#39;t see this when you are on casino property, only in the vacant lots inbetween or where little stripmalls exist.





    In most cases the Casino you are staying at will have plenty enough to keep you entertained on the property. OR be nearby enough to others, with walkways, etc. you will have no problems.





    Use common sense, keep your purse secure, and your eyes open.






    I would like to add that Downtown at night, under the canopy, is safe as well. I have wandered that area alone quite late (staggered back to my Golden Nugget room at 4 a.m. once), without being mugged or killed.





    Use common sense, and the safety precautions you would use at home. Keep hotel room door secure, don%26#39;t travel with lots of cash, stick together, avoid unlit areas at night, stick to crowded areas, have a photocopy of your passport and other important documents tucked away somewhere, always be aware of your surroundings.





    Don%26#39;t become paranoid to the point where you forget to have fun.





    Dee




    Vegas, on the strip, is safer than Manchester.





    Small hand bag for the usual. DO NOT lay it down next to a slot machine. Keep it under control and in sight at all times.





    Get a safe deposit box at cashier cage to store xtra money and pass ports, etc.





    Use Common sense.




    Thank you for all your tips... some great advice from you all. We are staying at Imperial Palace so i think we are quite central for most things? Thanks again really looking forward to it now.




    Just like in any other city ...don%26#39;t be a victim, don%26#39;t act like a victim, be aware of your surroundings, hold your handbag close, don%26#39;t get a false sense of security and wander out of the safety area of the strip casinos or the downtown canopy and you%26#39;ll do fine.



    And have fun.





    In general Women who have grown to adulthood have usually learned how not to be a victim. Usually! Use your common sense and don%26#39;t think that just because you%26#39;re in Vegas you can take chances.




    Imperial Palace is a great location. If you were staying at the Stratosphere, I%26#39;d warn you about walking around outside.




    Unless you%26#39;re going to be walking around in dark alleys, you can wear all the nice jewelry you want. That%26#39;s the whole point.





    Like others have said, watch your bags, don%26#39;t just leave them lying around. It amazes me that anyone from anywhere would be stupid enough to do that, but apparently plenty of people are.





    Don%26#39;t let random strangers into your room (duh).





    Most of the bad things that happen in the tourist areas of Vegas are brought on by the victims themselves. Random crimes are rare, except for the case of the left-behind purse.





    Ignore them timeshare people or tell them your paycheck comes from the Omani government. That keeps them away.

    Red Rock

    Has anyone ever rode a motorcycle on the Red Rock loop?



    Red Rock


    I have been in a car and seen a motocycle make the loop.



    Red Rock


    I%26#39;ve seen many motorcycles go through RRC on most of my trips there.




    Nice area etc but disappointingly short trip - though very easy





    Now I was incredably jealous of a bunch of riders driving the Valley of Fire / Lake Mead route on Harleys!!!





    Thats a run worth of doing!




    Thanks for the info. BF is riding his Harley out there %26amp; I thought it would be nice to take a day and go riding.I%26#39;m packing my helmet!



    How far is Valley of Fire? Would that be a better ride?



    Thanks for any input!




    Valley of Fire is about an hour away. It is a much better place-for everything. It is much larger and certainly more interesting. RRC is nice but not nearly as nice as VOF. Bring your own water if you go. The scenery is absolutely stunning. This is where I hope to go for my first bike ride! I have been there many many times-but never on a bike.



    http://parks.nv.gov/vf.htm




    Thanks vp03, I will suggest that ride, sounds like we better pack a camera!


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  • AAA Question..

    Hello everyone got a question that I hope someone can help me with. I found a GREAT deal thru AAA 1200 bucks for air and hotel at TI for 4 nights. So my question is will the hotel know what I paid for the room or will they only know that I booked thru AAA? Reason I wonder is I would like to get an updated room cause the one thru AAA is just a standard Room and I would like to upgrade to a better room and dont want to pay the difference from what I paid for the AAA discount since that would be alot of extra money. but am willing to pay the difference from a standard room to a better one from their price since its only like 40 more a night. any help would be great thanks



    AAA Question..


    Your room is paid for, doesn%26#39;t matter how. You shouldn%26#39;t be charged any more for the upgrade than the next guy. I%26#39;ve never had a problem.



    AAA Question..


    Room And AIR = 1200 bucks.





    Keep looking you can do better.




    that does not sound like a deal. I paid that much per person to go for a week and hald to all inclusive in Cancun. freedadogbrah look at travelzoo.com, southwest airlines, kayak.com.




    This might be a good deal.





    How about telling us the dates for the trip and how many people it is for.




    yes sorry that 1200 (its under 1200 i just rouned up) is for 2 people so price per person is just over 500 that is cheap room for the TI are around 700 for 4 days so im getting airfare for like 200 a person round trip non stop I would say thats a good deal also with good flight times early in and late afternoon out.




    what are your dates? are you staying mon thru thurs, or are you staying over the weekend? staying during some kind event in the city, or nothing is going on. Hard to tell from your post




    Its over the weekend 9th thru the 13th of Aug. There is alos some sort of convention that same weekend.




    The convention doesn%26#39;t start till the 12th and it ain%26#39;t that big.There is a chance that room rates may come down a little for a couple weeks, especially for hotels further away from the convention center. You may be better off with room and airfare separate.




    Agree with the thought of seperate air fare and hotel. Don%26#39;t know if your going to gamble but if you do the casino will not take care of your room if you book it with the airline. If you book through the casino you might get all or part of your room rate back, be sure to get a players card where your staying and have a host review your play BEFORE checkout. They can go back and pick up your eats and your room depending on your level of play. Also if you book with the hotel you can check back from time to time and if they offer a lower rate you can call and get the lower rate. Ask for a free room upgrade on checkin, maybe they will, maybe they won%26#39;t.



    Going in August, don%26#39;t forget the sunscreen. Have a great time.




    Say freedadogbrah - How far is Barnesville from Lake Woebogon? I listen to the show but can%26#39;t locate it on the map, lol.

    few questions about topless shows...

    I will be staying at Imperial Palace and was wondering where the classy topless shows are close by (not necessarily strip clubs). And which ones are recommended to see for 2 guys and 2 girls and what the cost is. If anyone knows of any special coupons for the shows please let me know. Thanks!



    few questions about topless shows...


    There%26#39;s a big difference between topless shows and strip clubs. Sounds to me like you%26#39;re looking for a ';show'; . . . so that%26#39;s how I%26#39;ll respond.





    Jubilee and Folies Bergere are traditional Las Vegas revues . . . you know . . . with the music, dancing and fancy (though mostly topless) costumes. Of the two, I would recommend Jubilee at Bally%26#39;s. We thought it was a great show. Don%26#39;t know the current ticket prices, but you would likely be able to find tickets at one of the discounted ticket outlets along the strip.





    Perhaps someone will comment on Crazy Horse at MGM Grand (formerly LaFemme). I understand it%26#39;s very good . . . but don%26#39;t have first-hand knowledge.





    AVOID Crazy Girls at the Riviera.



    few questions about topless shows...


    yes, the topless shows. But if anyone wants to mention close by strip clubs, that is ok too....but more interested in the topless shows..thanks




    Yes La Femme (Crazy Horse) is great, it%26#39;s sexy and not nearly as cheesy as the Showgirl shows.




    I think that the Flamingo used to have an afternoon topless show, and if you walked around outside, sometimes they handed out free show coupons. Not sure the details, and never actually went, just remember seeing the girls handing out coupons.




    Scott, a lot of the strip clubs are located on a road that runs parallel to the Strip and just to the west of it. None are really walkable from the Strip, though there is one within walking distance of the Orleans and one within walking distance of Gold Coast/Rio. However, the cab drivers will be only too happy to take you to whichever club they get kickbacks from.




    Mayb Midnight Fantasy at Luxor or Crazy Horse.




    Myself and hubby saw La Femme 2 years ago. We found it BORING and repetitive, and were almost falling asleep by the end of it. They do have a few interesting light effects, and they do have nice bodies but... you walk out of there the way you sometimes walk out of a French bistro, thinking ';Hm, I think I enjoyed this, that%26#39;s what I%26#39;ll tell my friends anyway... but some of this stuff was not that tasty... and was quite overrated actually... and the portions were very very small anyway...'; How many times have you walked out of a French bistro raving about your experience; for me there%26#39;s always been a ';hm'; and a bit of explaining and self-convincing to do afterwards.




    Jubilee is probably the best of the traditional topless shows. You can usually find tickets at the 1/2 price kiosks.



    www.vegas.com/nightlife/topless/index.html



    For strip clubs-



    www.vegas.com/nightlife/stripclubs/index.html




    Fantasy at the Luxor was pretty good... pretty girls and it kept my attention. Along with my boyfriends... being that the pretty girls were topless and all! I would recommend this show... I think the tix were about 45 or 50 a piece.




    My experience with the shows in LV is limited. The only show I have seen is Zumanity at NYNY. It is toppless and more or less adult oriented. My girlfriend and I loved it. I have herd it might not stack up to some of the other Cirq shows, but it was what we wanted. Sexy, fun and a full entertainment package. The nudity is not overt , but still lots of skin. I would go again, especialy with another couple. We paid about $100 each for the show and got good seats, not great but very good.





    P.S. I am a sucker for a good strip club, but this was much better.

    Looking for Good Steakhouse

    Going to Vegas for the first time in late April. I am looking for a good steakhouse for my wife and I to eat at for our anniversary. Any suggestions?

    Thanks

    Looking for Good Steakhouse

    There%26#39;s enough steakhouses in Vegas to eat at one per night for a year at least. This topic comes up on here very frequently and there%26#39;s a lot of favorites that are always suggested. Do a forum search (box at upper right of page) for %26#39;steak%26#39; to see thousands of old posts.

    Looking for Good Steakhouse

    My husband and I are eagerly awaiting our trip in July and first restuarant to try on our list is Emeril%26#39;s Delmonico%26#39;s Steakhouse at the Venetian. You can also check this restaurant out, and many others, online to help make your final decision.

    http://www.venetian.com/#ID=DELMONICO


    Haven%26#39;t been there - but The Steakhouse at Circus Circus is ranked as a favorite. Supposed to be incredible.


    The top two are CC Steakhouse around $40 pp or Prime at $80 pp


    Try Hugo%26#39;s Cellar... great food, good atmosphere... would be a great restaurant to celebrate an anniversary.


    Delmonico is my favorite. The Range at Harrah%26#39;s is also very good. The Steakhouse at CC is quite good, but you have to go to CC to go there. Mon Ami Gabi is good also.


    Wife and I recently ate at the Luxor Steakhouse for our anniversary and the food was excellent. The place has a nice atmosphere and we enjoyed it. I had a Bison Strip Steak for the first time and it was excellent. Service was also good.


    Texas Bull...... we%26#39;re staying at the Lluxor in July and I wondered what sort of costs did you experience there.. for beers, sprirts, mineral water, and especially steaks etc please?


    Smith %26amp; Wollensky, on the strip opposite Monte Carlo. I went for my birthday and it was lovely. Be careful what you order though one of our dishes was like a cow on a plate!! HUGE!


    Unsure, Our bill was $145 and that included 1 Beer, 1 Grey Goose Martini, Bison steak and side, Grilled Shrimp and side with an appetizer. Not too bad for quality of food we got

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  • Double Billed!

    I did something completely trusting and admittedly completely STUPID that I%26#39;ve never done before. Honestly, I KNOW I only have myself to blame.





    I opted to pay my hotel bill in CASH at the end of my stay rather than having the exchange put on my credit card (you know how much you get billed for that!). Long story short. The clerk handed me a receipt with a balance still outstanding. When I pointed it out to him... he said only his supervisor could accept cash (yeah right) and that I could wait if I wanted... Naturally, in a hurry - I just waved it off. To my credit he left the wad of cash right beside his keyboard and made no attempt to hide it or pocket it... I%26#39;m sure the next clerk (the supervisor) saw it. They were also having computer problems that morning.





    I checked my credit card today, hold your breath people, I%26#39;ve been billed! Yeah, only myself to blame, but I%26#39;m somewhat PO%26#39;d. After all, with a hotel like the MGM SIGNATURE you%26#39;d figure they%26#39;d have control of their staff and billing.





    I%26#39;m waiting for a reply from their billing department. Yes, on top of it all I got VOICEMAIL. I%26#39;ll let you all know how it turned out.





    Too bad this is ruining one of my greatest hotel stays ever.



    Double Billed!


    you%26#39;ve contacted the hotel, although I would call and not accept v%26#39;mail - talk to a live person.





    they will rectify this easy, the day you checked out they had to record how much cash was taken in - if it was.





    based on what you wrote it sounds like you did not wait for a receipt, correct? (and why doubt the clerk - he has no reason to lie to you)





    the hotel will handle this without any trouble



    Double Billed!


    For your sake, I hope they have decent view of you on the security tape. Call their security office and tell them what happened - you got scammed.




    Yeah, they must have had a good view of me and the cash. I%26#39;m an artist and drew a HUGE cartoon on the pad at the front desk while I was waiting for the receipt. It would have been hard to miss.




    Call them right away. They don%26#39;t necessarily keep the video from non-gaming areas very long.




    Dispute the bill asap with your credit card. Do not pay the bill if you paid in cash!





    Next write a letter and mail to their corporate office, by fedex with signature required or certified mail. There should be some type of camera that might have captured the transacation.





    Check your receipt, there might be a time and date of transacation. With all the computer systems, they probably will know who checked you out. Letters work better than calls.





    Don%26#39;t give up!




    Thanks folks. Just got off the phone (call #2). The billing office is only open 9-3 so I%26#39;ll have to call back tomorrow.





    Pleasant operator was UNABLE to access my account. I suspect this is a challenge because of my upgrade from MGM to Signature.





    Will definately call VISA tomorrow if I don%26#39;t get resolution directly with the hotel.




    Did you get your money back? I%26#39;m hoping to settle in cash when we leave and if they do this to me......oh my........oh my....they will know about it.




    Sorry about all the problems. I%26#39;m sure it will be resolved but the lesson is, if you%26#39;re paying cash for any service where you%26#39;ve previously given over your credit card details is GET A RECEIPT and retain it until you%26#39;re sure you%26#39;re not going to be billed again.




    Well I hope they have the video - otherwise there is zero way to prove you paid - nothing but your word. I%26#39;m not saying you%26#39;re dishonest - but c%26#39;mon, a lot of people are. You can fight the charge but it seems like a losing battle on your part to me.




    DestinyVP,





    From what you are saying, you did NOT sign the credit card receipt, otherwise why would you if you paid the hotel bill with cash.





    Call your credit card company NOW, and ask them to please put a hold on the charge. Tell them you already paid the hotel bill in cash. When MGM sees this, they will dispute this with your credit card company, and at that time the credit card company will call you to help mediate the charge.





    Good luck.

    us voltage

    Reading a previous post I just realised that the US has diferent voltage to the UK.



    We were packing our little travel kettle for that all important cup of tea on demand. Now I wonder if it won%26#39;t work in the US. Can any seasoned travellers advise please. We%26#39;ve only been to europe in the past.





    Thanks



    Betty



    us voltage


    Yeah, its different but you can buy an adapter. I don%26#39;t know how much they cost so I don%26#39;t know if its worth it.



    us voltage


    betty,



    You will need a 240 (UK) to 110 (US) convertor. Most travel shops, luggage shops, should have these. Probably around $15-20 US.




    Us uses 110 Volts.



    True you can buy and use an adapter, but is probably more expensive than a cheap electric kettle, bought from US.



    My advise is, once in Vegas find the nearest drug store such as Wallgreen, Rite Aid and buy the cheapest electric kettle that you can find. They are probably around $15




    Sometimes we overlook the obvious. Good answer - musicmano.



    Betty, some hotels have in-room coffee-pots, maybe you could use this for hot-water?



    Also, see if they have hair-driers in the rooms (if this was another concern). Clothes irons/ironing-boards can be requested as well.




    The correct answer is the UK uses 240 @ 50-Hz and the US uses 120 @ 60-Hz. AC motors designed for 50-Hz do not work very good at 60-Hz




    they also don%26#39;t work without a convertor because the prongs are different.




    Check your travel kettle to see if it%26#39;s dual voltage, ie does it have a switch to change it from 240v to 110v? Most modern travel kettles do. One of our does, but the other doesn%26#39;t. If it does then you%26#39;re all set.





    However, remember to switch it back to 240v before leaving the US otherwise, if you next use it in a country which has 220-240v then it will blow.




    check with your hotel if they provide in room coffee maker, that way you can boil water in your room without buying anything extra. Worst case scenario buy a converter this will come in handy if you visit North America again




    Hi





    I have a Hayden kettle that is dual volt there is a small switch you turn with a coin or screwdriver. I got this kettle in Woolworth%26#39;s for a tenner and you can get the adaptor plugs in most cheap shops for about 99p. So for about 拢11 problem solved.





    Clive




    As the kettle only uses heat and no motor it will work but take longer to boil.



    Buy a dual voltage kettle,or as suggested buy one there and leave it behind you.

    Where is Walgreens

    Where exactly on the strip is the Walgreens? I can%26#39;t remember ever seeing one on our trips. I guess there was too much other stuff to catch my attention. I plan on picking up water and personal items. Looking so forward to our April trip. Thanks.



    Where is Walgreens


    does it have to be walgreen%26#39;s. lots o fplaces on strip to do this - where are you staying?





    walgreen;s is acr



    Where is Walgreens


    Will be at Caesars.




    CVS is next to Monte Carlo on west side of strip and Walgreens is on east side of strip.




    There is a Walgreens between the Aladdin and the MGM, and a CVS pharmacy almost directly opposite.



    I never miss them as I like to travel light and buy when I arrive!





    Jo




    Thanks all for the rapid responses. Maybe I%26#39;m not the only forum addict. LOL. Have fun and good luck on your next trip.


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  • Post office

    I will be staying at the mgm and need to mail out a pkg. Anyone know where tI can do this?



    Post office


    The Business Center and/or Concierge at MGM should be able to assist with this, or at a minimum they can direct you to the nearest post office.



    Post office


    Thanks Irishfan




    Have used the Business desk at MGM and the Venetian - they offer lots of post/fedex options and will even sell you a brown box and a roll of tape!

    Parking Downtown

    Any suggestions on where to park downtown? Do they valet at The Golden Nugget or Fitzgeralds?

    Parking Downtown

    Park at The Western and walk to the canopy. Ask anyone outside and they will valet park for you.

    Parking Downtown

    Yes, they Valet at the GN (we%26#39;ve stayed there many times) BUT sometimes when we%26#39;ve come back the valet has been full and it will say ';hotel guests only';, but that shouldn%26#39;t happen if you go early enough in the evening.

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  • Improv or Comedy Stop ?

    We have done some checking on line , and these seem to be the most popular. Has anyone seen either of these shows?



    Improv or Comedy Stop ?


    you have to see who is on for your dates. the acts change, it is not the club necessarily, look for the act(s) you like. they are both hit and miss.

    safety at the stratosphere??

    When i stayed at the stratosphere a few years back you just had to walk across the street to catch the bus downtown and to walk toward the strip to catch the bus going the other way toward the strip. Is it still safe to do that even at night, I mean late night after coming back from downtown?



    safety at the stratosphere??


    I think the bus from downtown lets you off right in front, so you should be OK. If you%26#39;re getting off alone, just walk quickly inside.



    safety at the stratosphere??


    Beware of little green men................... When the sun goes down, terror hits the streets!!!! LMFAO!!!!





    2-fer



    :o)




    Also watch for the group that has been throwing tourists off the top. Do a search and you will find more info.




    Do not pay any attention to



    bobandjodi



    Only hotel guests are allowed use the pool and it is a well known fact that the gang throw hotel guests are thrown off the top of the Stratosphere into the pool and not the sidewalk.



    So as long as you are wearing a swimsuit and can swim you will be safe.




    Lmaooooo.... I thought only Strip Cruiser held on to that story!




    The story had some legs a few weeks ago.





    What should I have answered? People who are always worried about their safety probably should stay in the house.




    Bring a machine gun, you%26#39;ll be fine!




    pam you will be fine dont worry about anything and enjoy your vacation!




    Oh, you%26#39;re from Texas. Then you should be OK. The gangs mainly target foreigners for the tourist tossing initiation.

    dumb question?

    Do you suppose any of the hotels reads this form? Just for customer service issues.



    dumb question?


    haha that wasnt a dumb question ive never even thought of that. I guess they just might I dont see why not. but I really bet that they dont spend all that much time on here like we do LOL



    dumb question?


    A family member is a GM at a hotel in Myrtle Beach - he has someone assigned to review this and other travel forums once a week - the good and the bad are discussed at the various staff meetings -




    My feeling is some if these posts are from such people.




    Some of the local experts are or were casino/hotel employees. I am sure there are more lurking. Whether they read the forum for improving their properties or for fun is a different question. I would be encouraged if there were more management responses in the review sections.




    If management is conscientious and really cares, my guess is that they definitely read their hotel reviews and maybe to a lesser extent this forum, too. There are some management types who like to hide their head in the sand and pretend that there%26#39;s nothing wrong. Those types probably don%26#39;t read TA at all. The only one I know of on the forum who definitely has a remote connection to anything is Melissa Lynn, whose husband works for MGM-Mirage%26#39;s corporate security department. OC Traveler has been accused of being a shill for the Platinum, which may or may not be true. Now, Lowrance and I do get kickbacks from the MGM for positive responses but it%26#39;s not much. It%26#39;s like one free buffet for every 50 positive mentions. (J/K, folks!)




    In the past, there has been evidence that Las Vegas hotel management has read this forum at least occasionally.




    SO far I have received NO response from ORLEANS concerning my observations of their reduced customer service operations.



    Watered down drinks at the tables



    Lack of drink girls on the floor today vs 3 months ago.



    reduced maintenance people to fix room problems



    Minimum staff in the cashiers cage.



    Minimum staff at registration counter




    Gigolo,



    I don%26#39;t know how often you go to vegas or how many different hotels you have stayed in the past 2 years, but, I have some bad news for you.



    All the mid price and low price hotels and casinos have reduced their service quality.



    I guess they are not making as much money as they used to




    gigolo,



    Orleans management is too busy at customer service, delivering drinks, handling maintenance issues, making change and registering guests to review this forum:)




    Gigolo,





    It worked!!! They got you out of their casino.





    Now they can go back to business as usual.

    Flamingo April 2 through April 6 - Anybody else??

    I will be at the Flamingo on April 2 through April 6 - looking forward to sitting at their beautiful pools!!!!



    Flamingo April 2 through April 6 - Anybody else??


    luxor--9th-12th



    cant wait!!!



    Flamingo April 2 through April 6 - Anybody else??


    Please post a report when you get home. I goingthere for the first time the end of May and looking for as much inside info on the hotel and their pool as possible. Thanks




    pool area is great with good music and bar closeby. we loved it last april so muched that were staying again sept.23-29th. casino inside is just fine . tip: if your wanting a snack in the evening hours go to the deli around 8:30 or so and everything is half price. have a great trip folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




    Good tip on the deli, now if I can just remember it! Please write a TR when you get back!




    We%26#39;ll be there April 2nd - 6th also. My second stay. The pool area is beautiful. I%26#39;m looking forward to lounging there too. Love the hotel and location can%26#39;t be beat.




    what Deli in Flamingo? The one by the habitat?




    Flamingo April 28 thru May 3rd. Ist time visit. Looking forward to it.




    luxor april1st-6th 12 more days !!




    We%26#39;ll also be at the Flamingo the 2nd - 6th. Hope it%26#39;s good pool weather!


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  • Grand Canyon At Sunset

    Hi there,

    I am wanting to take a helicopter tour to the Canyon on 4/19/07.

    What is the best time to see the sunset at the Canyon?

    Thanks.

    Grand Canyon At Sunset

    The tour company should have the option for a sunset viewing. I%26#39;d say the effects become visible about an hour or so before sunset.

    Grand Canyon At Sunset

    Thanks for the reply.

    That%26#39;s just what I wanted to know.

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  • MGM/Mirage Players Club

    I know that you accrue points on the card and can check them on machines, correct? My question is if you have to be proactive in having them use your points towards your stay (i.e, room and food)? Or, in the alternative, is it automatically applied to your room?





    Thanks in advance.



    MGM/Mirage Players Club


    I don%26#39;t believe it%26#39;s automatically applied. At least, I%26#39;ve never experienced that (maybe if you%26#39;re a high roller is is?). What I do is stop by the players club every night to see what I%26#39;m eligible for.



    MGM/Mirage Players Club


    Thanks for the input.




    can%26#39;t speak for mgm/mirage, but for the Harrah%26#39;s group, you have to ask at checkout to have your points used.




    Charge everything from MGM properties to room go to Players Club prior to check out and see what they will comp.





    Also, be aware you get free-play or point play in this case, on top of comps, go to Players Club set up a PIN # and you can check your Point Play you earn - when you have earned I believe the minimum is $10 you can chose to use it vs. your money, they no longer give cash back. You will want to do this prior to finishing gambling as you probably want to use it on this trip.




    So random the MGM/Mirage players club is. Charge everything to your room and be prepared to pay it off prior to leaving if they do not feel like comping it. I gamble at Detroit and so does my sister (more then me) and we have figured there is no rhyme or reason for their comps, ect. I get more then her and gamble less.





    One thing I do suggest is to hook up with a host as I did and you will get better offers.





    Another thing is you are close to Windsor so try gambling at Ceasers Windsor and Harrahs props you will get more free rooms from them.




    Thank you all for your responses. Sharon, I see that you gamble at the Detroit MGM. I have been there a number of times myself. I personally find this place depressing. It seems like there are a lot of people there who probably shouldn%26#39;t be gambling. Meaning, people who don%26#39;t appear to have a lot of disposable income. Obviously it is their choice, but I find it depressing nonetheless.



    I am looking forward to the new MGM that they are building down the street.




    Sharon211 said



    One thing I do suggest is to hook up with a host as I did and you will get better offers.





    Getting a host will not help get better offers. You earn them or you don%26#39;t. It is a numbers game. It is difficult to get many comps for table play. With Player%26#39;s Club they want you to charge everything to the room and they will see what they comp (if anything) at the end of the stay. Total rewards gives you points and x amount of points gets you y amount of comps. Very straight forward. I do like the properties player%26#39;s club has though.

    TR - March 16th-19th MGM Grand

    Post to follow.



    TR - March 16th-19th MGM Grand


    FRIDAY





    Flight in from SFO on United went as planned. Checked in at the MGM Airport check-in while Hubby N Friends got bags. I tried the $20 trick ($20 in between my ID and CC). The clerk saw and took them like a pro who knew what the deal was. Unfortunately between March Madness and a Rod Stewart concert at hotel that weekend they were booked. But I do think she would have upgraded our room to a Bungalow suite or better if she could have. She handed me the tip back and proceded to give us the best room available - high floor, strip view, near an elevator. All in all it was well worth the effort - I will definitely give a go again next time we are in town. I thanked her and we were on our way to the hotel. As a group it was much cheaper to take a taxi ($10) so we did.





    MGM Pool



    Had a good time hanging out with friends over some pina coladas ($10). The waitresses took way too long (although completely understandable given the amount of people). I recommend just getting up and walking over to one of the bars. There one hidden behind the producers pool at the back of the complex that was 20 feet away and empty - doh! It would have been easy and quick just to go there.





    CRAFTSTEAK



    Had a great meal. The service was excellent and the portions were generous. There was a lot of sharing around the table. The steaks were delicous - had the porterhouse for two and it was my favoraite other than the filet mignon. We also had mushrooms and the potato puree (my favoraite of the sides). The brocolli was also very tasty. The desserts were just okay. The rasberry mojitos we had were some of the best we ever had. All in all it came to about $110 per person - we had some shared appetizers, main course, sides, desserts and wone/drinks.





    KA



    2nd time seeing it and still enjoyed it. Although it was the late show and I was tottally spent so it was hard to stay awake - especially after such a great dinner.







    SATURDAY





    Mon Ami Gabi



    My fave place to brunch on a sunny day. I love eating here. The food is great and the prices are fair. You also get a great view of the bellagio fountains. It%26#39;s one of the few places that you can go to and see sunlight while you eat at a casino.





    We just walked the strip for most of the day and went to the Veneteian and the Wynn. We spent most of the evening at NyNy. It%26#39;s a younger rowdier crowd there which is fun. Had dinner at the food crourt. The deli at NyNy is good - I like the reuben sandwhich.





    SUNDAY





    QUA SPA



    I loved this place. Well worth the $$. Got the fiji ritual which is was awesome. Total pamering. My best friend and I spent 2.5 hours there after our 1 hour tratment just hanging out in all the different rooms. The tea lounge has free hot/cold drinks (water/coffee/tea/fruit juices) as well as pretzels and fruit. I had one of the best showers ever. They take care of any toiletries you think you might need when you get ready to leave. Well worth even just getting a day pass.





    Met up with everyone else (glowing!) after the spa at the Hilton for the Start Trek Experience. I%26#39;m a trekkie so I enjoyed it (we also got the tix 1/2 price at the tix 4 tonite booth - which helped). Evreyone (all sci-fi fans) enjoyed it. I couldn%26#39;t do the whole thing though because I get motion sickness very easily so I just hung out in the gift shop after.





    We went back to MGM grand for the evening. Ate at the Grand Wok for some sushi- not too overpriced and decent food. I wish they had more variety to their rolls however.





    Played craps and had a great time - won big - then lost big. Oh well!





    MONDAY





    Ate at the MGM Buffet for lunch. I%26#39;m glad we got it for free with our stay because it was not worth it. Not much to write about there - the food wasn%26#39;t very good at all. Next time we are going somewhere else for a buffet.





    An uneventful flight back home. Our mission was to show our friends who had never been there a great time and celebrate my husbands 30th birthday/our anniversary - Mission Accomplished! We didn%26#39;t really win all weekend (we had bad start friday and never climbed back). But we still had a great time. Looking forward to our next trip back.



    TR - March 16th-19th MGM Grand


    thanks for the report!





    sorry to hear you didn%26#39;t come out on top on the gambling front, but we can%26#39;t win all the time (ohh, how nice that would be!)



    sounds like you enjoyed some yummy meals.





    how did you friends enjoy the stay? do you think you%26#39;re created a couple of more vegas-addicts? ;)




    Thanks for the TR. I always chuckle when you girls gush about the free drinks and snacks in the spas, not remembering that the cost of those items is built in twice over to what you pay for spa entry and for your spa treatments!





    As a friend of mine says, ';If a lady wants to come to my house, take off all her clothes and lie face down on my bed, I will put hot rocks on her back for free. '; :)




    Glad you and your friends (hopefully) enjoyed your time at the MGM. Sounds like you ate at some places I like and enjoyed most meals. As much as I love the MGM, I will always agree the buffet is just ok.



    Thanks for taking the time to do a TR.




    So the best way to get a free upgraded room is $20 between cc and drivers license? I always ask and I usually get a reply that I can upgrade at a cost. Any advice is greatly appreciated.




    Sooner - it is known around here as ';the $20 trick.'; If you want an entertaining read, put that phrase in the search box ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. It%26#39;s a hotly debated maneuver!




    did you use a promo code? if so, was it one that was mailed to you or did you find it online? details please?




    Thanks for a great TR,too bad about the 20 buck trick.




    I am not a trekki. But have always been curious as to what the ';experience'; is. Can you elaborate?




    Answers to various qustions:





    Promo code - we did get a promo rate through a casino marketing mailer we received (we had played at MGM before)





    Star Trek Experience - its basically 2 ride/shows each about 5-10 minutes plus an exhibit of ';artifacts'; from the show. The ride/show is a virtual ride either with the Kilingons or Borg you get to do both with the price of admission.

    Canadian Dollar

    Just a heads-up to those of you looking to change CAD into US. The dollar has spiked today, so it may be a good time to do it!



    Canadian Dollar


    Thanks! I just got some but might get more!



    Canadian Dollar


    Rowie,





    Thanks for the post! Just wish it jumped back up to $0.92, but then again, glad it didn%26#39;t drop back to $0.62 like before! Yikes!





    Mac Maroon




    Wow, that%26#39;s great! Now the Canadian Dollar is ALMOST as worthless as the US Dollar!!!!




    mjb225,



    If you think the US Dollar is too worthless for you,



    you can send all of yours to me.



    ha ha




    Alex,



    I was just referring to world markets....I recall going to Canada years ago and getting about $160 Canadian for $100 US....obviously much closer to par now....




    Palms. ..as low-rent as Sterling is high class, but some decent food selections and a cheap-champagne buzz for around $15

    Single Mom & Kids (10 & 8 yos)

    Any recommendations on hotels and attractions for families? We%26#39;re planning a trip out west next summer and want to spend a day or 2 in Vegas before heading to Grand Canyon.



    Single Mom %26amp; Kids (10 %26amp; 8 yos)


    for kids that age, probably staying at Excalibur would excite them.



    i%26#39;ve also read good reviews of the tournament of kings. it seems to go over very well with kids in that age group.



    Single Mom %26amp; Kids (10 %26amp; 8 yos)


    Another suggestion would be the Orleans. They have a movie theatre, bowling, decent food prices, and an arcade for children. They also currently have a shuttle to the strip.



    South Point the same stuff about 5 miles or so, south on the strip.



    Shuttle to Mandalay Bay.




    Do a search on this forum for ';kids in Vegas';. I%26#39;m not going to restart the whole debate all over again just for your benefit.




    Circus Circus is great for kids. The Adventure Dome looks like it could keep them entertained for hours on end, and the free Circus act is cool too, also good for adults!!








    Another vote for Tournament of Kings at Excalibur. It%26#39;s great for kids--my husband loved it :)




    Name...First Post....TROLL!!!!!!




    maybe it%26#39;s her first post because it is her first trip - duh and this one won%26#39;t stir a controversy because she said it is only for a day or so as part of a larger trip. Give the woman a break.




    pick a hotel with a good pool, mandalay bay, monte carlo, mgm are good choices.




    The Orleans would be perfect for a family. They have a shuttle to the strip, a nice pool, many restaurant options, bowling and a movie theater. It is a nice inexpensive hotel. I think it is nicer than the Excalibur and certainly nicer than Circus Circus. With the shuttle leaving you off at Bill%26#39;s (Barbary Coast) you will have a central location.



    The Luxor has usually shows some nice 3-D movies in their IMAX theater. There are animals at Mandalay Bay (Shark Reef- rather expensive but nice), Dolphin Pool/Secret Garden(Mirage), Lion Habitate (MGM) and animals at the back of the Flamingo. There are rides at Sahara, Strat and NY NY but they have height limitations.



    Here is a list of attractions for kids:



    http://www.vegas.com/attractions/kids.html



    You might also like to see a show- Mystere would be great and you don%26#39;t have to get the expensive tickets- the cheap seats would be fine.




    Hard to give a break when there are so many ';New'; people posting the same things over and over on this subject trying to get something started.





    And yes, I fell right into it.

    Where to park for Heavenly?

    Hi, i%26#39;ve never been to Tahoe before but will be in Sacramento on business on thursday. I plan to drive to South Lake Tahoe Thursday evening, stay at a yet to be determined cheap hotel/motel Thursday night and ski Heavenly on Friday. My question is which is the best entrance to the mountain? If i%26#39;m staying in the village should i just go to the gondola or is parking @ the California base simple and easy? after skiing i%26#39;m heading back to Sacramento for a red-eye back to the east coast. I%26#39;m checking out of the hotel before skiing so all my stuff will be in the rental car.

    TIA.

    GMC

    Where to park for Heavenly?

    There%26#39;s a fair sized lot at the California Base. There really isn%26#39;t any parking or free parking at the gondola. Friday it will be easier to find a spot than on the weekend. Also your cheapo hotel could have shuttle service or you could take the town shuttle service called Blue Go. Here%26#39;s a link:

    http://www.bluego.org/bus.html

    Where to park for Heavenly?

    Go to the California Base. But get there no later than 9 am. It is a big parking lot that can fill up rapidly after that time. Then it can be a long walk in ski boots to the chair lift!

    The one negative about taking either the Blue Go or the Heavenly shuttles is that it can eat up your time. This may be a consideration leaving Friday afternoon. Already you are doomed with traffic problems getting back to Sacramento. There is no worse time to be on the highway! It might be better to have dinner at South Lake Tahoe, and travel later.

    If you do use the shuttle, plan on one hour for wait time and the frequency of stops prior to your destination.

    suzie-travels - when does the traffic on US 50 subside, returning to Sacramento?


    In response to the question from State Ref - if you are driving from SLT to Sacramento on a Friday afternoon I%26#39;d say there really isn%26#39;t much of a challenge until you actually reach about Hazel Blvd. Pretty much everything before that is headed east. Once you hit about Hazel/Sunrise on the 50 corridor going west you begin the commuter traffic from the businesses going into Sacto. If you leave SLT around 4 you could end up in the mix at the peak so having a bite to eat in SLT and then beginning your drive around 5 might be a better idea. Sounds like you have plenty of time before the red eye. Also the daylight is really long now so you won%26#39;t be making your way around in the dark. Won%26#39;t be dark, dark till after 8 pm now. Was really watching the light last night to see what time the really dark dark set in and it wasn%26#39;t until after 8.


    suzie-travels and StateRef, thank you very much for you quick responses.

    GMC

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  • driving from las vegas to grand canyon

    Hi planning our first trip to vegas in april and hoping to drive from vegas to the grand canyon would you recommend the west rim or south rim and how long do you think it would take to drive to both?





    Thinking of booking TI or MGM which is the better option, would like a decent pool for relaxing!



    driving from las vegas to grand canyon


    The South Rim is actually in Grand Canyon Nat%26#39;l Park and is the preferred destination of almost everybody. The drive time is about 4 hours but most people stop at Hoover Dam - you%26#39;ll drive right over it en route.





    www.nps.gov





    The West Rim is on the Hualapai Indian reservation. I haven%26#39;t been there but the consensus seems to be that the views are not as spectacular. The main draw sof the West Rim are that its closer to Las Vegas and the upcoming ';Sky Walk.'; Although its supposed to open in a few days, I wouldn%26#39;t count on it. They%26#39;ve been delaying the opening for a couple of years. Check out this site for more info.





    http://www.destinationgrandcanyon.com





    Check out the reviews for the hotels and ask the question in a separate post - you%26#39;ll get more responses.



    driving from las vegas to grand canyon


    Hi, the drive from the strip to South Rim. Grand canyon Ntl Park is 5 hours we have done it 2 times. Dont forget to fill up with gas drinks and snacks for the ride. We stayed at El Tovar the first time, and Bright Angel the second time. Awsome trip.




    South Rim, it%26#39;s a 5 hour drive. If you stay overnight (recommended) the Canyon accomodations are most likely booked. Try Williams about an hour away or Tusayan just outside the park.

    TheHotel @ MB Phone Chargers?

    Will be staying there 3/27-4/1 and making a lot of business calls back to the office toll free. Do they have a surcharge for toll free calls at MB?





    Staying in the V Suites celebritng my birthday the 27th and our honeymoon we never took from three years ago. First trip to Vegas and can%26#39;t wait.





    7 days and counting.



    TheHotel @ MB Phone Chargers?


    Jeeeesh...That%26#39;s supposed to be ';Phone Charges';



    TheHotel @ MB Phone Chargers?


    and you can%26#39;t bring a cell phone?




    Petite great minds and all that




    Petite, Yes I will have a cell phone but will be on the phone with customers up to 2-3 hours a day in the morning and to save on airtime I was simply asking on the 800 surcharge, if there is one. Thanks for the helpful reply though.




    why not call the hotel and ask? You are sure to get an accurate answer, in a timely manner.

    First Time Help Please

    Never been to Vegas would like a nice hotel reference.





    Main things we would like to do:



    1. See Grand Canyon - flying?



    2. Other desert type attractions - driving?



    3. Great Pool bar scenes



    4. Star Trek experience



    5. Good comedy or concerts.





    Where can we drive to from Vegas and back in a day?





    Any help appreciated!!!!



    First Time Help Please


    Flying seems to be the quickest way to see the canyon leaving you more time in Vegas. You can drive but it would appear to be about 5hrs each way.





    Red rocks is within easy driving distance from the strip





    Assuming you are of the younger generation the better pool bar scenes would probably be the Hard Rock, Mandalay Bay, Caesars, MGM, Flamingo, Mirage.





    Depending on when your trip is check with various sites such as Vegas.com for a full list of concerts and shows. Some good headliners at MGM garden arena.





    You could of course visit the Dam, there and back in half a day.





    Hope this helps a little





    mpo



    First Time Help Please


    hi, i can recommend caesars and the wynn for good pool/bar atmosphere ( ?? budget)



    we drove to the grand canyon stopping off at hoover dam for an hour or so first and drove back same day, i wouldn%26#39;t recommend this it was too long would definately take one of the many helicopter trips next time!





    concerts? i liked elton johns red piano at caesars but realise this isnt everyones cup of tea!!





    happy trip planning!




    Some of the places with vibrant pool scenes aren%26#39;t great choices for first time visitors as they tend to be not so centrally located.





    For a reasonable balance of location and pool, I would look at MGM, or if you want to save a little more money, Flamingo. Mandalay Bay also has a very nice pool complex if you don%26#39;t mind being on the south end of the Strip.




    Thank you, this is all great info. We are not real young, late 30%26#39;s. The helicopter to the Grand Canyon seems cool, but I would like to spend and hour or two there. I would really like to see Elton John and I checked and he%26#39;ll be there while we are, so thank you for that suggestion.





    It seems like most stuff isn%26#39;t in walking distance of all hotels, so I wouldn%26#39;t mind not being on the strip if the hotel was really nice and the pool scene cool!! Sounds like a lot of fun.





    Thanks again.




    For a really great one day trip (or less)-Valley of Fire. It is about an hour from Vegas. The scenery is spectacular. It has stunning sandstone formations. You can drive from formation to formation but to really appreciate its beauty you should hike on some of the trails- some are short. Bring water and food (not available in the park) and you can have a picnic in its picnic area. You can spend as much or as little time as you want at VOF. To me this is a must see trip for anyone going to Vegas who wants to get off the strip for a while. You can combine it with a trip to Hoover Dam and Lake Mead-perhaps taking a paddleboat ride at Lake Mead.



    http://parks.nv.gov/vf.htm





    A closer trip would be to Red Rock Canyon on the west side of town. It is less than 1/2 hour away. It has a 13 mile loop that you can drive that has pull out points so you can get out of the car. It also has some nice hiking trails. It is a favorite of rock climbers. It is a very nice trip but not nearly as great as VOF.



    http://www.redrockcanyonlv.org/

    Voodoo Lounge-you have to pay?!?!?!?!

    I got the impression it was lounge and you could just go up for a drink and they did food too (the layout on website looks quite bistro/restaurant as it is).





    But from other posts I see its a nightclub too, with a cover charge?? how does that work? What if you are already in there before they start charging? If anyone can tell me the setup I would be grateful.



    Voodoo Lounge-you have to pay?!?!?!?!


    There is a cover charge after a certain time (not sure if it is 8pm or not). Before then, you can just take the elevator up and have a drink at the bar and look at the view. They do dinner up there also (no cover).



    Voodoo Lounge-you have to pay?!?!?!?!


    you can get a free pass at riovegasnights.com




    Cool Sharon Thanks!! Exactly what I was looking for!




    Last visit we timed our dinner reservation for an hour after sunset.



    We arrived early, grabbed a witchdoctor and went out to the deck to enjoy the sunset. Had dinner (it was good but not outstanding) and then stayed around for a few hours after that to enjoy the transition from lounge to nightclub.





    When we came back down around 11pm the line to get in was HUGE.




    Keep in mind the free pass is only good Sun-Thur and only before 10pm.




    Sunday thru Thurs before 10pm %26amp; ALSO when there is not a special event going on........which is OFTEN!!! Check their site for details, as they are listed!!





    I%26#39;m sure many folks got shot down, and ended up having to pay once they got to the door, cause of one of these ';events';!!!





    2-fer



    :o)




    Yep but even if you have to pay this bar has the most amazing views I have ever seen.




    You pay an pay an pay an pay...............

    where can we drive from vegas ?

    hi guys,

    arriving on a sunday into vegas booked till friday morning, we are hiring a car where could we drive to stay overnight fri/sat nights back to vegas for afternoon flight ?

    any advice much appreciated if not should we stay in vegas all the week and drive to local sights.

    thanks

    Dave

    where can we drive from vegas ?

    Hi

    You could go to Laughlin about 2 hours from Vegas and stay there and visit Oatman from there ( old town with burros roaming around) and poss take the boat trip from Laughlin to Lake Havasu City and see London bridge. Or drive there even on a day trip from Laughlin. You could even go to the Grand Canyon comfortably in two nights. There are lot%26#39;s of options for you best check the maps and see what you like the look of! You could drive from Vegas to the canyon then you could stay one night in Flagstaff then on to Laughlin for the second night with a short 2 hour drive back to the airport.

    Clive

    where can we drive from vegas ?

    It depends on how far you%26#39;re willing to drive. The Grand Canyon, Death Valley, Los Angeles and San Diego are all within a 4 hour drive.


    Grand Canyon, Bryce, or Zion National Parks. You could do a trip to Death Valley as well. Don%26#39;t forget the usual day trips: Hoover Dam, Red Rock Canyon, Valley of Fire, Lake Mead.


    Hi

    I have been to most places around Vegas and the suggestion of Zion is a good one, we thought it was nicer than the Grand Canyon and we stayed in Mesquite at the Casabanca hotel and casino which had a great pool and pretty good rooms aswel.

    Clive


    Hi

    Forget to put on the drive to/from Vegas you pass the Valley of Fire on the way to Mesquite/ Zion and that is really worth the time beautiful landscapes.

    Clive


    I think trying to get in Zion, Bryce and Grand Canyon would rush things a bit. Better to do Zion and Bryce or the Grand Canyon. My preference is Zion and Bryce. I think photos never do Zion justice.


    How long of a drive would Zion and Bryce be? Could you do it as a day trip? Could you see both in one day?


    Zion and Bryce. Stop at Valley of Fire on the Way to Zion.

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  • Excalibur rates for the summer

    I just received an email from Excalibur, sumer rates during the week...





    My email said the rate is $51





    my husband%26#39;s email said the rate is $25







    I think he played a lot more than me when we were there last time !



    Excalibur rates for the summer


    WoW! that%26#39;s a great rate. My family and I will be staying there in July. I saw the rates for $61. If you know of any promo codes to get a better rate could you pass them along please. Thanks.



    Excalibur rates for the summer


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    The above is for a $51 promo with $25 dining credit and $25 match play at Excalibur.




    i just got an email for $51 and never played there


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